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prillalar ([personal profile] prillalar) wrote2003-06-05 09:39 pm

It's too hot to be fannish.

But I'll try.

I'm almost done my pre-OotP HP read-through. I'm mid-way through GoF right now and I'm thinking that I've re-read it too recently to do it again. But I persevere.

Here's something I've never figured out:

The Defense Against the Dark Arts professor is Mad Eye Moody. Who of course is actually Barty Jr. Who of course has to act like Mad Eye in order to stay under cover. So, he's a good teacher. No problem.

But! When he demonstrates the Unforgivable Curses, he puts Imperius on them all. And Harry is nearly able to shrug it off. And then Barty Jr-as-Moody makes Harry practise again and again until he can throw off Imperius entirely. Why?

I've never been able to come up with a good explanation for that.

 

I've got B5 S2 and am greedily watching my way through it. It's a lot better than S1 except that now we have Sheridan. In my home, he is known as Uncle John as I've never seen anyone that avuncular. I wish he'd choke on his homespun wisdom. Or at least not come back from Zahadum. *g*

While I'm pretty sure I've seen every B5 ep, I've never got to watch straight through in order before. (When it was first airing, I had some TV accessibility issues and so wasn't able to keep up.)

I'm really enjoying seeing the beginning of people's stories now that I know their ends. You can see all the seeds of success and destruction in these early seasons.

While Ivanova is my official B5 lustbunny, I think my fave character is G'Kar. His arc -- which is of course inextricable from Londo's -- is the most tumultous, interesting, and touching.

I began to really love Xander when I found out that he was a B5 fan. And this season, when it happened, I thought of G'Kar. There was no way to work that into fic without it being cheesy, but it seemed enough to ponder it.

 

And now I should go write. If it's not too hot.

[identity profile] basingstoke.livejournal.com 2003-06-05 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You can have Andrew make a Profound Comparison.

Then Xander can stare at him, and Andrew can stare back.

[identity profile] basingstoke.livejournal.com 2003-06-05 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
*grin* Ah, canon geeks.

[identity profile] timesink.livejournal.com 2003-06-06 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
But! When he demonstrates the Unforgivable Curses, he puts Imperius on them all. And Harry is nearly able to shrug it off. And then Barty Jr-as-Moody makes Harry practise again and again until he can throw off Imperius entirely. Why?

Because JK didn't think to turn Barty into Moody until she was almost done writing the book? {g}

Maybe it was still the real Moody. Wasn't that early on in the year?

Damn, I'm glad I reread this before June 21. I'd forgotten so much of it.

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[personal profile] semielliptical 2003-06-06 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think we need to come up with an in-canon explanation.

In-canon? That makes this much more difficult. Possibly "Moody" saw it as yet another way to gain Harry's trust? I think it's a stretch, given that he does this in quite a few other ways that don't result in Harry learning to combat a dark curse.

I personally don't think the problem is that JKR didn't plan the Moody/Barty/polyjuice plot, I think she has a general tendency to write what's convenient for one part of the plot without thinking about the event's meaning in other contexts.

[identity profile] ex-mommybir.livejournal.com 2003-06-06 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
G'Kar is my favorite character, too--next to Delenn, I guess, because of course I want to *be* Delenn. (But if I were, I'd've picked a better mate than Sheridan! *ahem*) It's killing me that three seasons are out on DVD now, and I can't afford to buy them all right away--even though I have all the first season and most of the second on VHS, anyway.

Re:

[identity profile] ex-mommybir.livejournal.com 2003-06-06 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
And you know, I'm not a regular Buffy-watcher, but when I saw Xander with his eyepatch, I thought immediately of G'Kar. And then of Odin, of course.

[identity profile] bouncyflea.livejournal.com 2003-06-06 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
And then Barty Jr-as-Moody makes Harry practise again and again until he can throw off Imperius entirely. Why?

I'm sure I didn't personally come up with this (most likely it's the spawn of HPfGU), but I'm of the theory that having been under the Imperius himself, Crouch honestly finds it so abhorrent that he doesn't want anyone to have to be subjected to it.

It's hardly hole-proof, but it's the best I've got :)

-Del

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/oceana_/ 2003-06-06 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
But! When he demonstrates the Unforgivable Curses, he puts Imperius on them all. And Harry is nearly able to shrug it off. And then Barty Jr-as-Moody makes Harry practise again and again until he can throw off Imperius entirely. Why?

Haven't really thought of it before, but here's an attempt of an explanation.
Reason 1):
The Tournament. He (Barty Jr.) knew about what would happen when Harry reached the Cup. He had to make sure that Harry would reach it.
When he saw that Harry could possibly resist the Curse, he therefore had to find out if Harry could really resist it. I don't see it as a training, but as a test.
Maybe he wanted to use the Imperius Curse on Harry during the Tournament or before.

Also, knowing that Harry can resist the Imperius Curse is a very valuable knowledge for a death eater. So why didn't he tell Voldemort about it (who used the curse against Harry, unsuccessfully)?
Three explanations:
1) He couldn't risk contacting Voldemort while he was in Hogwarts.
2)He thought Voldemort's curse would be more powerful and he wouldn't need to warn him.
3)It wouldn't matter, because Voldemort would be in no danger from Harry resisting the curse, because he has other methods of winning a fight. Also, it was very unlikely that Voldemort would use the curse on Harry, it was more like a game, not a serious attempt to harm Harry.

Anyway, I don't think he wanted to teach Harry to resist it.
He says: "Dumbledore wants you taught what it feels like"
Now, we can believe him or not, but I do believe him. Even Moody (Crouch) couldn't take the risk to use these curses on the premises of Hogwarts without Dumbledore's permission.

Explanation 1) Dumbledore wanted Harry to be able to fight the Curse off. He told Moody to teach him.
I don't believe that. Even though it certainly is useful for Harry to be able to fight the Imperius, telling Moody to teach Harry is a probably little too far fetched.

2) Moody asked for permission, so he could test Harry. And, think about it: he did not only test Harry, but all his best friends as well! What better way to find out who he could put under the curse and use for his own purposes!

You can see I am making this up as I go along, so there could be more explanations. And it has been more than a year since I read GoF. Also notice that we get told how hard it was for Ron to resist the curse. I am almost sure that J.K. Rowling will use that in one of the books to come.