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I just noticed this: in Karupin's Adventure, the most adorable Blushy!Kaidoh walks past Lounging!Inui and TwoYearsTennisExperience!Horio. Inui greets Kaidoh and when Kaidoh greets him in return, he ducks his head in a little bow. So. Damn. Cute. I also saw him once bow before entering the tennis court. I don't recall seeing that from anyone else.

I have this secret theory that Horio is Kaidoh's fanboy. (Not, I should add, in a slashy sense.) I think I'm basing this on Horio describing Kaidoh's play (possibly just after he played Inui in the first ranking matches) as "ideal tennis". Maybe I just want Horio to annoy Kaidoh a lot. *g*

I've been thinking about my InuKai vs my TezuRyo, how even though they are equal in my affections, I have written lots of InuKai but only one TezuRyo. And when I think about writing more TezuRyo, it's as a continuation of the first piece. I have a lot of different instantiations of InuKai. I'm not sure how many of my stories you could group together and say they are in the same continuity. But even though in some Kaidoh may be the aggressor and in some Inui is a tease and in some Inui is so in love he might die of it and in some Kaidoh has never once thought about Inui that way, they are all still, I think, in character. I have a lot of Inuis and Kaidohs but only one Tezuka and Ryoma.

The TezuRyo is drawn from the canon far more than the InuKai, even though there is more direct canon evidence for InuKai. But to me, the whole show is about the Tezuka-Ryoma relationship. So I what I write has to fit in with that, whereas the InuKai just has to be lightly coupled on. It makes the TezuRyo difficult.

And then there's the MomoKai which I must admit I'm pretty hot for right now. I've even been dreaming about them. But I can ship both InuKai and MomoKai at the same time (like simultaneous tea and no-tea) without making my brain explode. I just think about them in different continuities. I must say, it makes watching the show a lot more enjoyable since Kaidoh's always with one or the other of them.

I also wonder why I'm so gone on this show, fic-wise, when the scope is so narrow. Unless I want to do future- or past-fic, it all has to fit into a timeframe of several months. Months, that's all. And not much can really happen in that time, unless I want to go seriously alternate history. (To me, alternate history is when you change the events in canon, while alternate universe is where they are all pirates. Which could be fun.) But gone I am. It's not the only fandom I write in, but it's certainly the main one. I guess I just like the characters.

The other day, I saw a story on ff.n with a side pairing of InuKikuKai. What the hell? But I would like to see more badfic written about Atobe/Momo. It's a good pairing. On the other hand, I would like to see much less of Yamato-buchou/anyone. He's sooooo creepy. He's creepier than Donnie Pfaster. Seriously.

In conclusion, writing is hard.

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I just watched the Momo-Kaidoh fight during their special training and then their match against Rikkai and I'm just like...my god, I knew that they drove each other nuts but I never realized that it was FOREPLAY! (well, of a kind anyway....).

I mean who else fights to "relax" each other? Jeez...

So, while TezuRyo is sort of my default ship (I hesitate to call it a ship...more like these two sort of deserve each other at this point), I have to say, MomoKai has won my heart. (And oh my god with the saving of the dog and the bandana-exhange...*dies*)

I'm quite cool with InuKai as long as they don't break each other's heart! Then I get too depressed to read it...oddly, I *like* it when Momo and Kaidoh break each other's hearts. But I am strange and callous.

Yeah, there was *so* much MomoKai both at the training camp and then in their Rikkai match. It is to die. And they are my favourite doubles pair by far.

Have you watched the rest of Rikkai? Because I had just barely recovered from the MomoKai when...

Momo and Kaidoh were born to break each other's hearts. Mmmm. But Inui and Kaidoh were born to be together forever. Also pleasing. :)

The TezuRyo -- their interaction on the show sometimes makes me want to cry, I find it so deep and touching. The way Ryoma's voice changes when he says "buchou", the way Tezuka can't keep his eyes off Ryoma, it just makes me hurt.

Yeah, there was *so* much MomoKai both at the training camp and then in their Rikkai match. It is to die. And they are my favourite doubles pair by far.

Yeah, they are just the right amount of snarky to make it interesting but not annoying (When Eiji gets annoyed at Oishi I sort of want to smack him around a little bit...). I know Inui is your favorite but I have to admit that Momo-love has sort of crept on me - here I was thinking I was just toooo cool for a character like that and bam! He just goes and does something insane or cute or just plain dumb and I'm a goner.

Have you watched the rest of Rikkai? Because I had just barely recovered from the MomoKai when...

Well, I'm ashamed to admit I always have to watch Ryoma's matches first (yes, I know, I can't help it...he's Ryoma after all, he would expect no less) so while I've watched the rest of Rikkai almost a week ago I'm not actually sure what you are referring to...

The TezuRyo -- their interaction on the show sometimes makes me want to cry, I find it so deep and touching. The way Ryoma's voice changes when he says "buchou", the way Tezuka can't keep his eyes off Ryoma, it just makes me hurt.

Yes, I'm also fascinated by the fact they sort are shadow selves for each other...but I just happened to spoil myself for parts of the Kevin Smith-saga and I'm pretty annoyed with Tezuka right now. (I should really stop taking a sneak peak at episodes I've downloaded for later watching). Or, make that really pissed at him. Oy vey. I'm sure I'll get over it but suddenly thinking how much more supportive Oishi is as a captain...it'll pass. Eventually.

I grew to love Momo through writing his POV, actually. And he's my fave PoT POV to write, he's so fun. My favourite will always be Kaidoh and Inui is just the kind of guy I would have been crushing over at that age, but Momo is now getting up there for me too.

In re Rikkai, I was talking about the insane fucking canon InuKai. Yea, verily, Rikkai was a good arc for me. :)

There are some interesting things I'm trying to think through regarding Tuzuka, Ryoma, and Fuji that touch on the Kevin Smith arc. I don't have it worked out enough to post yet, though.

I don't see Tezuka and Ryoma as shadow selves, though. (Not like, say, Neo and Agent Smith.) How do you see them?

Tezuka is Ryoma's mentor and, hmm, goal? I don't want to say rival, because that doesn't seem right. He really stands in for Nanjiroh; certainly he commands the respect from Ryoma that Ryoma's father doesn't.

holy shit....

In re Rikkai, I was talking about the insane fucking canon InuKai. Yea, verily, Rikkai was a good arc for me. :)

Oh my god, I just watched the Inui-Renji (spelling) match...my god...that's just...wow. Yeah, I'm speechless. Damn. I mean, *damn*.

I don't see Tezuka and Ryoma as shadow selves, though. (Not like, say, Neo and Agent Smith.) How do you see them?

When I first started watching this show, I thought Tezuka was looking at Ryoma to be something he couldn't be....now, I'm not sure. I mean, they have to be the two most anti-social tennis players alive, but I sense that Ryoma is more of an actual person under that facade of his. Tezuka sort of needs some sort of intellectual/emotional investment -- either in the tennis club or in Ryoma -- to become some semblance of a human being.

There's something rather ridiculous about having expectations about who or what a 12 year old is going to be, but there is something even more ridiculous about having expectations about *Ryoma* particularly. If I find Tezuka just a bit insane, it is because pushing a 12 year to find his potential just seems like the most insane thing I've ever seen.

And as an aside about Ryoma and respect, I always feel that just because when he decides to go along with the program, he's only doing it because it seems to amuse him in some way. (like when he VERY suddenly starts calling all the regulars "senpai" constantly...he can actually turn a title of respect into a little dig which I find incredibly amusing) *IF* he decides to respect someone, and if he shows Tezuka respect specifically, he makes it pretty clear he's *chosen* to respect him. Which is why he's such an interesting brat. He's just my favorite little shit-stirrer, I guess. Who the hell knows what goes on in Tezuka's head sometimes....

Eventually I'll get through the Kevin Smith arc and now I'm curious what role Fuji plays in it....

Inui's Rikkai match is my favourite match of all time, not just because of the InuKai, which is breathtaking, but because that was when I really started to respect Inui's tennis. I found Data Tennis rather weak up until then. I love to watch him play -- both when he is so precise and graceful and then when he is going all out.

After that match, I made this icon. :)

There's a point in that match where Horio is making a fuss and then Momo tries to get Horio to shut up but then ends up making a fuss of his own. Kaidoh tells Momo to just "be quiet and watch senpai play". My brain always fills in the rest like this:

Momo: Well, okay, I'll be quiet if you ask me to. Because you're my boyfriend now, right?

Kaidoh: Although I do ~~want to fuck you like an animal~~ respect you, only Inui-senpai will ever have my love.

Momo: Darn.

When I first started watching this show, I thought Tezuka was looking at Ryoma to be something he couldn't be....now, I'm not sure.

Yeah, I don't think that's it. Tezuka really seems invested in helping Ryoma to progress (and you just have to forget about the ages -- I mean, Tezuka looks 25 and acts 35) and it's hard to really figure out his motive, other than trying to be a good senpai.

The thing that really helped open Tezuka up to me, at least somewhat, was that stupid episode which I just now realised you probably haven't seen, so I'll shut up about it. :) Whew, barely saved that one!

The stuff with Fuji is actually from later on, from a scene that was in the manga before this point, but not in the anime til almost the end. (I'm glad it was worked in eventually since I'm going by anime canon with TezuRyo, not manga.) It speaks to Tezuka's attitude towards each of them. More I shall not say.

Momo: Well, okay, I'll be quiet if you ask me to. Because you're my boyfriend now, right?

Kaidoh: Although I do ~~want to fuck you like an animal~~ respect you, only Inui-senpai will ever have my love.

Momo: Darn.

heh. Yeah, that is pretty much my interpretation of invents. InuKai is forever, MomoKai is for a sweaty afternoon. A really sweaty and *fun* afternoon but an afternoon nonetheless.

The thing that really helped open Tezuka up to me, at least somewhat, was that stupid episode which I just now realised you probably haven't seen, so I'll shut up about it. :) Whew, barely saved that one!

The most amusing thing is I've been spoiling myself silly (by randomly peaking at downloaded episodes) but it is incredibly difficult to spoil myself for episodes that haven't been released in fansub form. I did buy the end of the series via ebay (Chinese imports) but my god the English subtitles are terrible. In one of the episodes characters kept on talking about a lighthouse shining on something and it took me a few minutes to get they probably meant *insight*. God, that was painful....I may just watch without titles entirely and see how it goes.

InuKai is forever, MomoKai is for a sweaty afternoon

That's a good motto. It works pretty well with my motto, which is: If Kaidoh's happy, I'm happy.

How far have you seen, then? The episode of which I do not speak was just after Rikkai or maybe a couple eps after that, so maybe you have watched it.

Yeah, the HK subs are dreadful. I have rips of some of them, but it's probably just as easy to watch the raws. The show is not that deep, so it's usually not too hard to figure out what's going on. It's only when there is Tezuka-Ryoma dialogue that I long for a sub. And translation notes. And commentary on the translation.

How far have you seen, then? The episode of which I do not speak was just after Rikkai or maybe a couple eps after that, so maybe you have watched it.

I've just finished the Rikkai arc so I should be watching the epiosde you are not speaking of fairly soon...(I also have to go back and watch eps 95-103, but I don't think I missed too much there.)

It's only when there is Tezuka-Ryoma dialogue that I long for a sub. And translation notes. And commentary on the translation.

Yes, reading absolute nonsense come out of Tezuka's mouth in the subs is beyond strange. Since he and Ryoma aren't known for being chatter-boxes every word counts.

*sigh* that should be interpretation of EVENTS not "invents"...geez..

I totally agree, especially with the TezuRyo.

My private hypothesis regarding this is that there's already so much of it (some of it subtle, some of it not) in the series, that it's kind of hard to look at their relationship in any other way. Kind of like in other, blatant shounen-ai series-- there's less leg-room to work with because the characters themselves already spell it out for us.

InuKai, MomoKai, hell, even MomoRyoma have different angles we can work with, but you're right about TezuRyo: basically, the whole show /is/ about them.

I keep thinking I want to write a story for this (I love reading it, personally), but I have trouble puzzling out what to say. If ever, it might probably be a future!fic thing, or a snippets!inbetween!snippets thing. :)

*notices that she's rambled long and hard; will shut up now*

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Yes, and with TezuRyo the interaction on the show is really almost enough for me. I don't have as strong a need to expand on it. Though I do intend to continue with my series at some point, especially now that the anime is over, since that's the canon I'm following. I couldn't really fill in the blanks until I was sure where they all were.

*nods* Can't wait to read it! I'm quite fond of your TezuRyo. :)

Aw, thanks!

Blushy!Kaidoh is insanely cute. And I think Horio just fanboys at everyone because he is a massive loser. I also do not think he would have to do much to annoy Kaidoh.

And I think the thing about TeniPuri fic having to fit into a timeline of a few months is true but really, we mostly see training and stuff in those months. You can add stuff that happens during the small portion of their day that these boys don't spend training and, unless you want to have a massive plotline (and most TeniPuri ficcers don't), it usually works. Plus there's nothing wrong with alternate history!

And I've seen InuKiku and KikuKai (besides the obvious InuKai) before, so I guess InuKikuKai isn't much of a stretch... Also fandom is off its collective rocker.

I must say, I adore Horio. I should hate him, but I just can't. He's very sweet in his own obnoxious way.

I suppose I'm comparing tenipuri to HP scope-wise. It's such a small universe. But I don't mind that. Maybe I prefer it because the boundaries seem safer. Hmm. But I miss getting to make up magic stuff. *g* (Not that I'm done with writing HP, just that it's not got my attention right now.)

Really? I just want him to shut up.The fact that he thinks he's smarter than he is was funny the first time and then it stopped being funny.

Well...any universe can seem small or large depending on how you look at it. TeniPuri is sort of in the real world (albeit a version of the real world where the basic laws of physics don't apply) so there really are an awful lot of possibilities...they just may or may not be interesting. (But making up magic even when it's not present in canon is a prerogative of fangirls!)

I imagine I'm in the minority when it comes to Horio. Eiji actually annoys me more than Horio does.

I'm dreaming of an Alternate History with Arai-buchou and Horio-fukobucho. *g*

There certainly is a lot of magic in tenipuri already! I mean, look at Tezuka Zone. That's not natural. When Nanjiroh does it, I can believe that it's his skill, but when Tezuka does it, it seems like some sort of ninjutsu.

Eiji actually annoys me more than Horio does.

*coughs* Okay, now I know I'm not the only one...who finds Eiji...less than enchanting, shall we say?

Hee! I don't mind Eiji usually, and am often entertained by him, but when he gets worked up, I kind of want to smack him. I mean, if Oishi smacked him, what chance do the rest of us have to resist? *g*

Hence: The Forever Love of Oishi and Eiji: A Tragedy in Three Acts

*chokes* oh my god *laughs and sputters*

*snickers* I'm such a bitch I also get a kick out of Tezuka being caught in the spider-crossfire as it were....

Poor Oishi. Doomed to love an over-exuberant 15 year old.

Glad it amused you!

I'm such a bitch I also get a kick out of Tezuka being caught in the spider-crossfire as it were....

You're not the only one. :)

You likely are (no offense). Eiji is adorable (IMO) and at least not annoying all the time.

And that would be hysterically funny and end very soon as the Seigaku team loses terribly in the first match of the season and spends the next several months getting chewed out by Ryuuzaki-sensei.

Ahahaha. So true! At least Nanjirou's version does not involve the random appearance of glowing lights and water and many sparkly things...Tezuka really sounds like a magical girl if you think about it too hard doesn't he?

I'm not trying to diss Eiji by any means. De gustibus and all that. :)

Maybe Tezuka really got sucked into another world instead of going to Germany. Although my theory was that he actually went to Paris to become an international male fashion model.

Didn't think you were. ^_^

Ahaha. Best theories ever! And they make utterly crazy amounts of sense.

have written lots of InuKai but only one TezuRyo.

And guess who is sad about it no matter how much she likes InuKai. Guess. but I understand you talking about the difficulty of writing TezuRyo, it´s so canon that it´s hard to find room to put the fic in, and at the same time keep that canon-ish feeling that it´s so special in the TezuRyo. Maybe that´s why I have only written like half-TezuRyo.

He's creepier than Donnie Pfaster. Seriously.

The X Files jokes still get me. I will never get over that show *sobs*

One day I will get back to the TezuRyo. I will.

And TXF! First fandom yay!

And I will remember these words of you. I will *is evil* (now I just have to find some poor soul to promise to write Sanada/Kirihara...)

And TXF! First fandom yay!

First and best!

*has too many Pusher icons*

I keep coming across Sanada/Kirihara where Sanada is a sadist or an evil rapist or some such. I take it those aren't really working for you. *g*

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