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prillalar ([personal profile] prillalar) wrote2009-12-29 03:17 pm

Kindle?

I'm thinking very seriously about getting a Kindle now that they're available in Canada. Do you have one? Do you like it? Do they make Prince of Tennis Kindle skins?

OH, HAL, DON'T DO IT :|

[identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)

Can i suggest one of these friendly alternatives to the Kindle (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2341536,00.asp), rather than giving your money to a company that perennially hurts independent booksellers, tried to censor GLBT literature from its search pages and site rankings and never apologized for it, joined in the price-gouging war with Wal-Mart & Target (bc they just weren't hurting independent booksellers enough), and only gives publishers a third of the profits (http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/07/amazon-takes-70-percent-of-kindle-newspaper-revenues/) from kindle subscriptions to their newspapers, while demanding 100% full share of the licensing???

*remembers to breathe*
Edited 2009-12-29 23:33 (UTC)

[identity profile] svilleficrecs.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
My dad loves his (and he's currently out of the country, so apparently that functionality works). My mom even loves using it, and she's ... differently abled when it comes to anything technological. From everything I've heard they're pretty awesome (apart from a handful of issues that it seems you'll get more or less with any reader these days), plus, apparently it's not that hard to convert fic for it.

Re: OH, HAL, DON'T DO IT :|

[identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)

ack, sorry, i don't mean to seem rude--i just went through explaining to my family why i don't want one, so i just sort of leapt in.

[identity profile] shikishi.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
why on earth would you pay 300 USD to purchase a machine that you can read books on? I have to ask as I really don't get the draw of them.
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[identity profile] illuminations.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
My dad actually won one in some raffle when he went to a business convention and I think it's pretty spiffy? I haven't used it a lot yet, but the display is really nice (it actually looks fake/like a prop to me, so I'm always amazed when I watch it flip pages and change and such). Can't tell you anything about the battery time or anything useful such as if it's worth the cost especially since ours was free, BUT I have had someone tell me that reading manga on it is ACE. :D Not that there's any manga you'd be into, I'm sure...

Oh, and you can use their 3G network for free as of right now. Not really sure when/how that's going to change, but it's kind of nice that that's there.

[identity profile] svilleficrecs.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] geekturnedvamp has had one for a couple years (I think you two know each other, right?) She'd be able to fill you in on details.

[identity profile] longleggedgit.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I have heard a lot of people say the Nook is better, but that . . . might be me just being susceptible to advertising, actually, because I can't remember who I heard it from, lol.

I used to be all RAWR NO ELECTRONIC READING DEVICES but then I calmed down a little and realized all the ways in which they can be a good thing! And hey, you could make your own Prince of Tennis skin! (http://www.uniqueskins.com/Products/Amazon/Custom+Amazon+Kindle+Skin)

[identity profile] shikishi.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I love gadgets too but am woefully lacking in them as I am also acheap-o tightwad who refuses to spend money on them. :(

And Hal - there is always space for books. that is what the under bed space is for, most of the bathroom and parts of the garage.

[identity profile] shikishi.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha. You sound like myself and my best mate. She finally had to open a used bookstore in order to store all her books. :D (and yes, I am dead serious - recession, job cuts, lets open our dream store!)

and blasphemor. PoA? For realz?

[identity profile] akatonbo.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
That must be a LOT of books or a very small living space! (I have 7 bookcases in my apartment. I could fit more if I really wanted to, but I'd have to either remove some other items or get a little silly about it, so if I start running out of space, I cull.)

The current generation of e-readers is somewhat interesting, but I can so often get a better price than the e-book price by buying used, I couldn't justify it. (I am totally lusting after those little netbooks that would fit in my purse, though.)
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Re: OH, HAL, DON'T DO IT :|

[identity profile] bobrhyn.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
CAME HERE IN THE HOPES OF SOMEONE SAYING THIS SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO CONVINCE MYSELF AGAINST CHICKENING OUT.

But basically, this.

[identity profile] leviosa8.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't want more screens in my life for the time being, but if you are that concerned about physical space for books, and have such a love for technology, it might be worth trying it. A friend of mine has a similar gadget and she was exhilarated about being able to read Merlin fanfic on the go without having to print it anymore.

[identity profile] neeteeus.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
I have nothing useful to add about the virtues or non-virtues of the Kindle in particular, but I do find it fascinating when fellow bookworms express an interest in this technology. Although I also feel the space issue, what we've resorted to is storing some of the books we rarely-if-ever read (old textbooks, etc.) in rubbermaid bins and stacking them in storage until the day we move. We have a somewhat current list, and are looking into an ISBN scanner (like the cuecat) to make this easier to update. The digital list is on the iPod Touch so it's portable.

I just can't see myself ever feeling satisfied with having a paperless version of something I like. The physical presence of books is a huge part of the experience for me. Actually, same with videos. Even if I've downloaded a series for free, I will more often than not purchase the DVD collection when I find it because I need to see it on my shelf.

I'm curious to see if this will be a generation thing, and 10-15 years down the road everyone will be walking around with these tablets and I'll seem terribly old-fashioned. :D

Keep us posted!

[identity profile] kazeko.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
If u have a Ipod touch/ Iphone. Get Stanza. :)

[identity profile] bookchan.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You might want to wait. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2009/12/three-e-readers-at-ces-2010.ars It looks like a bunch are supposed to be announced at the consumer electronics show this year.

[identity profile] leviosa8.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
If that's the case, I see no inconvenient. If I ever own one I hope it is already almost as inocuos as a normal book page.
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[personal profile] alestar 2009-12-30 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, I just got a Kindle for Christmas and have spent the last week winding up* to InuKai fest by reading the collected [livejournal.com profile] prillalar InuKai works on said machine.

My disclaimer is the giddy newness of my relationship with my Kindle, whose name is Callisto, but I do love it so far. Here are some pros and cons for the Kindle 1, if that's what you're considering.

pros
1) The machine creates its own readable docs out of .htm files that you move over via USB; alternately, you can email a document to your unique @kindle.com email address, and Amazon will convert the file and upload it to your Kindle for $.15 American. This is the most significant feature for me, since fanfiction is my priority in all things.
2) Wireless internet forever without service charges or wi-fi.
3) I can lay around wherever and read whatever I want on a little slip of plastic, which is better on my spine than sitting up in bed with a laptop.
4) With wireless turned off, the battery lasts for funking ever.
5) It has a Minesweeper easter egg on it?

cons
1) Navigation is clunky, and you can't arrange the documents in any subfolders, so it's just this ginormous list of documents that you have to scroll through. I think you can also search for a particular doc? But I would prefer folders. Possibly due to my own categorizing fetish.
2) It's not designed for browsing, so the Internets are slow, though I did successfully load and navigate Google maps with many clickings of the tiny joystick.
3) Some of the free books I downloaded from Amazon were designed specifically for the Kindle 2 and so wouldn't display on my Kindle 1; I could only view the Table of Contents. I didn't really research this problem, since my primary interest, as stated, was the fanfic-- so this might be some error on my part.
3) Minesweeper stresses me out! One wrong move, and you're DEAD.


* After a long tenipuri hiatus, I am astonished all over again at the crack. What the shit is this? What am I supposed to do with that!
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[personal profile] alestar 2009-12-30 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
There are two Cons #3.

[identity profile] longleggedgit.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I understand that. I love the book as an object, but if you don't have your own personal library, it can be really hard to find the space for all of them! Also, it must be great for traveling and studying/living abroad.
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[identity profile] illuminations.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, yeah I'm not sure. Amazon also states that web browsing is available for a fee, but that's a lie as far as I know. It is most likely available to all just because that feature is still so new. It's actually under the "Experimental" category on the Kindle.

The display is really nice. It's probably the most comfortable screen I've read off of. I know someone below said that Amazon can convert files for you for a small fee, but there are a few freeware programs out there where you can make your own files and upload them through the Kindle charger/USB. You literally just drag/drop files into the documents folder, which is really convenient and user-friendly, but you do lose other functions such as the ability to zoom on the document. Then again, font size is something you can easily mess with when building the file.

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[personal profile] fishpatrol 2009-12-31 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I bought a 1st generation Kindle a few months ago and had someone smuggle it to Canada for me. ;) I quite like mine, though I prefer to read physical books (the way the page goes black for a moment while it "flips" is still somewhat distracting for me), so I mostly read long fanfics on it (e-ink is much easier on eyes). I do find that Kindles don't organize files very well -- you have the option of sorting by title or authors -- no folder navigation or anything like that. If you plan on storing a lot of books on your ebook reader and want to sort them by anything other than title/author, there are other models that do allow folder navigation (e.g. Bebook).
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[personal profile] alestar 2010-01-01 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
How would you say it compares to reading a paperback?

It does, of course, lack that special book as an object (to steal [livejournal.com profile] longleggedgit's phrase) component, and there's a lag in flipping back or forward a page-- but the words-on-a-page experience is exactly the same, except that you can increase or decrease the font size. Additionally, you can highlight portions of the text for bookmarking or to make a special note that's saved, with the highlighted text, in a separate file called My Clippings. Having a searchable and electronic bookmarkable (to make that phrase up) copy of Moby Dick has already totally changed my life. (Though not all books on the Kindle are searchable.)

The great thing is that's not even near the most crack thing in the series!

My very first exposure to Prince of Tennis was when [livejournal.com profile] poilass came to visit me while I was doing a study abroad in Italy, and she brought a suitcase of PoT manga. We were riding a bus to Assisi, and she gave me one to read, and at first I was like, Hahhaha, this is like Naruto, only DUMB & WEIRD! But by the end of the second volume, I was so credulous and so into it. Many years later, a couple of days ago, I watched the PoT live action movie with my little sister, and she was very skeptical.

[identity profile] don-amoeba.livejournal.com 2010-01-02 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
I feel your pain, I have 4 bookshelves in my BEDROOM ALONE and my floor is still buried with book piles. if we ever get earthquakes in Melbourne I know I'll die of a book avalanche. I'm curious about kindle too... but I'm tempted to buy a Chinese knock-off version since I'm in Beijing right now, not just because it's cheaper, but because I want something that supports Asian languages (you can't read Japanese with Kindle2).

[identity profile] wickedcherub.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
I got an International kindle for Christmas and I have barely put it down. It is amazing. Think, you could reread Atlas Shrugged and not have to lug it around!

I like that I can read the books in a me-friendly font and font size. I like I can read books in bed without being uncomfortable. Here in Australia we have free Wikipedia on the Kindle and that is amazing.

I've yet to convert fanfic to it, but I will be doing that.

I agree with the sentiment that all the documents/books are just listed one after the other, which makes navigating a bit clunky. You can sort them via title, author etc, but if you have heaps of them then it's still stupid.

I like the built in dictionary and I like being able to dip in and out of books without losing my place. I like being able to add notes and highlight things. I just like it, and it fits in my smallest handbag.